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  • saimrathi
    07-11 11:33 AM
    Very well written...

    The criticisms of this website are LAUGHABLE. The Economist's quality of life index has rated Canada and Australia the top countries on earth to live in, overwhelming, year after year after year after year!

    Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, Melbourne, Sydney and Perth consistently dominate the top 10 cities in the world to live. 6 of th top 10?

    The index takes into account, cost of living, earnings capacity, safety, etc.

    Canada probably has one of the most rosey futures on earth. It has an abundance of resources, a tiny population and ironically, global warming is adding to its opportunities.

    Cost of living is actually far below that in places like NY and California.

    Health care, while not top notch, provides better care to more people than is likely to be found in places like the US. PARTICULARLY for people that are older and more likely to need it.

    Education is infinitely better. US Public schools are atrocious.

    Yes, taxes are higher. How do you think these things are paid for?

    As for the weather, well duh! :)

    Anyway, both countries have advantages. I love the U.S. and that's why I'm here. But don't let an inarticulate and unfounded set of ridiculous statements turn you off. do you own research!





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  • n2b
    09-23 11:18 AM
    Let me slice & dice your thought!

    this is totally lame idea!Why, do you have any brighter idea than this? Until you have one at least this is something to act upon! Though, if you have an idea please post, majority of people on this forum are good listeners and executioners unlike you maybe.
    immigration policy is a social and an economic issue..not just economics..At least we are putting something on the table that can take care of one issue in your opinion i.e. the economic issue, pls let the social issue aside at least the way you are putting it, it sounds more like a racist issue!!!
    They dont want too many ppl from one country ..that is the reason for 7% quota...why cant you digest that fact...How many times have other members mentioned to folks like you that the people you are talking about are already in this country, unlike you I do not see why would there be any concern around having too many ppl from one country? It seems like only you seem to be scared of a different breed around you!
    we can fight injustice if we feel we are being treated in an unfair manner..is this justice to restrict EB categories by country limits and not having such limit for H1Bs or L1s? Why not have same policies across the board if it's right? You might think this is justice because of your racial thoughts!
    but this carrot-and stick approach will back fire...I can partially agree to this...we have to make sure this approach does not back fire!

    i know many who have bought homes even when they were on H1...In which case you would also know many who haven't bought homes because they are unsure about their greencards! (ps - I am house owner so this one don't really matter to me but I am all up for it.)
    you must be really creative to link EB GC and purchasing a house!You are right, the reason we fall in to the EB categories is because of our creativity! why do you fall into EB category anyways?





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  • forever_waiting
    01-13 12:21 PM
    Few questions for the self proclaimed expert analyst who started this thread -
    1) How many lawmakers have you met to represent these provisions you claim to be so passionate about?
    2) Have you visited capitol hill and tried to understand what the congress thinks about EB legislation? I did - during the IV advocacy event last year with hundreds of eb2 and eb3 members.
    3) How many members here have you actually worked worked with? Because the people I know here who actually do the grass root work with me (both eb2 and eb3) do not care about theb category they belong to.

    I know you do not have any real responses...only abuses which you responded with on the other thread.
    Its funny how plainspeak is the one usually doling out the abuses but claims to be the victim.





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  • mariusp
    03-29 02:19 PM
    OK, I've done some more homework and this is what I found in the proposed rule text:


    III. Proposed Amendments to the Permanent Labor Certification
    Regulations


    The first amendment would prohibit the substitution of
    alien beneficiaries on pending applications for permanent labor
    certification and on approved permanent labor certifications not yet
    filed with DHS.


    Basically it says that the rule applies to:

    (i) pending labor certification applications and
    (ii) approved labor certification which have not yet been filed with USCIS

    So it looks like you won't be affected if your case is already pending with the USCIS.



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  • amitjoey
    01-13 12:27 PM
    I wish- Logiclife would answer this thread. He has a way to explain things and put things in perspective. He is very direct and I like that.





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  • msp1976
    02-19 08:13 AM
    EB2 Ind & Chi.. if dates dont move for April (new calendar quarter), we better start donating too
    To anyone sitting on the fence, waiting for X event to occur so that they would donate to IV.......

    There is no great utopia waiting for you in April.....
    Read this whole thread again please......

    Now is the time to contribute money, a little bit of your time, a little effort to contact your lawmakers....

    You better start 'Contributing' NOW

    This is the time window for action...



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  • NKR
    02-12 01:04 PM
    Hi,

    In the past any leftover numbers from undersubscribed countries were being given to the oversubscribed countries in the final quarter of the year (Jul-Sept), That's how so many of indians and chinese got their GCs over last 4-5 years.

    My question is, is that still the policy of the USCIS? Will USCIS use the leftover numbers from ROW for India/China.

    The possibiliy of having quite a few of leftover numbers is high as ROW is current for EB2. That might bail out, to some extent, EB2 India.

    You of course have to count the effect of new memorandum about FBI Name check into this mix.

    Thanks,

    Viren



    No left overs from ROW to POW (this is what I am feeling right now with EB2 being unavailable)..





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  • panky72
    09-24 12:54 PM
    Please paste this into your To , CC or BCC. rest of message is on top of thread.

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    Good job! I wish somebody had done it yesterday to help lazy people like me:D I had to make individual emails to everybody.



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  • logiclife
    02-12 01:17 PM
    I have seen this dog and pony show one too many times. Every year, people think that next year's quota of 140,000 will cause the dates for India and China to go forward in the October Bulletin. October will be the end of misery.

    Each year, in October bulletin, for India/China EB3, the dates are either stagnant or they go back to 1998 or 1999.

    The thing is, as long as there is this per-country quota rationing of green cards, ROW folks will keep moving to the HOV lane and each year, in Oct to Dec timeframe their dates will get current and they will get GCs.

    And each year, the dates for India and China will keep yo-yoing between 1998 and 2002, will never move forward, because if per-country limits are applied to 140,000 greencards, then there is very very little leftover that flows to India/China.

    So without an increase in Quota or without removal of per-country discrimination, nothing is going to happen either in Oct 2008 or Oct 2009 or Oct 2010. It will keep fluctuating between 1998 and 2002. That is the bracket for India and China.





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  • chantu
    03-30 01:57 PM
    Yes...We had them in power for five years. It was a joke. India was Shining and we had to wear sun glass.

    I am not supporting the congress party. I am only supporting the MMS. To me, he is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarr better than Mr.Advani or Mayavathi

    SNathan, I know you are supporting MMS and not congress. But remember, it is not MMS govt it is congress govt. MMS is just an executive who will implement his boss's decisions. It happened during Narasimha Rao. It was Rao and not MMS who brought economy reforms. Also, India Shining was flop show and we had to wear sun glasses, but last 5 years of UPA was such a economic disaster that now even if we remove glasses we can see nothing but darkness.

    Also please consider that during UPA rule, India's loss due to terrorism was next to Iraq. As Narendra Modi says, even if you are rich, own houses and cars and happy in life...but if you are not sure that at the end of day you will return home safely or not, then this money and richness is of no use.



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  • tonyHK12
    01-13 02:53 PM
    Do you think some one would go to all this length of providing helpful posts and do all the drege work all to just convince you. Please do not think so high about yourselves. As i said before to scare you all i need to do is write one post and that is not my strength that is you guys weakness whcih is on display here.
    You've got to be high or sick or both - go see a doctor. Right now you're just throwing trash around.
    great so you're trying to incite arguments between members and calling people names. you just proved my point. well don't waste time making empty threats or inciting people on forums.
    You can take your trash somewhere else.
    If you had any ideas you should have talked to your IV state rep in the last 4 years, it doesn't matter what you post.





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  • sachug22
    09-15 02:17 PM
    Here are my Estimate of pending EB2 India case for give years

    <=2004 2000
    2005 10000
    2006 13000
    2007(july) 5000
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    Total 30000
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    This number is very close to Ron Gocthers number prediction a few months back (minus sept approvals).

    Collaboration on visa quota data/analysis - Page 6 - Immigration Information Discussion Forum (http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8419-collaboration-on-visa-quota-data-analysis-6.html)

    Pending as of 15 July 2009 145000
    EB2 50000
    EB3 94000
    EB2India (2.4/3.5 EB2) 35714

    We can use the LCA number and come close these numbers as well

    2005
    EB2 India LCA for 2005 = RIR (3000) + PERM (60% of 7290) ~ 7400
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 5900
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 13000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 5% cross-charageability we get => pending 10000 pending I-485 application for 2005

    2006
    India PERM applications = 18000
    EB2 India PERM applications (60%) = 10800
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 8640
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 19000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 10% cross-charageability we get => pending 13000 pending I-485 application for 2006

    So if we see spillover of more than 30K the date will move beyond July 2007.



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  • cagedcactus
    06-21 03:20 PM
    I took upon a couple of new employess in 2004 October and trained them for couple of months as per my job requirement. The company later laid off few guys and substituted two approved labors with these two guys. They got their greencards last year, while I am stuck with a F***ing 2003 PD.
    I cant even say how mad I was over getting screwed like this, but hey, if there is any good left, maybe I will have my day too........

    I agree with your post here.....

    Many of us are not aware of the extend of labor subtituion and the impact that it has on the visa numbers .

    I personally know a case where 1-140 was filed in 2005, for a Labor which was approved as early as 2000.

    The person was able to get his green card in 6 months time (he has been in US only for 1 year, came to work with the Indian company and joined this new firm just to get his substitute LC) and ate away 2 visa numbers which a genuine GC applicant should have got.

    When there are applicants who are waiting for more than 5-7 years to get their green card and in some cases just to get through the labor certification process , isnt this grossly unfair?

    Advocates support LC substituion as it is just one more avenue for them to make more money. Unscrupulous employers support the LC substituion since it helps them to make money ( as I understand many of these companies sell LC) . Also same LC is used multiple times.

    The losers are genuine GC applicants who are ethical and companies which are ethical.

    As a H4 visa holder my life in this country has been so very limited that even opening a bank account or getting a driving licence is tedious as most people have no clue about H4 Visa-its limitations including absence of SSN and donot acknowledge ITIN number for many of the above purposes.

    We who are hindered by retrogression and the slow processing (actually no processing at all ) happening in the backlog centers should welcome this new legislation for Banning LC substituion.





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  • vinrobo
    07-21 01:56 PM
    I had my first encounter 10 years ago while in India. Escaped the scene and felt bad that time about it.
    But now I have become good at it and just let them politely know about my policy of not "owning a business".



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  • jayleno
    07-10 12:49 PM
    Hey dude
    Dont insult a whole state....dont blame/depend on other people in making your decisions...
    I need to hear more stories like this to realize I won't be alone when time comes for me to pack up.

    I am from A.P. Lot of folks from my state in India can't accept anything but USA outside A.P. Me and my wife really like to live and work in other parts of world and we have even asked my company to send us out of USA. The only reason for me at this point to pursue GC is for my wife be able to work part-time.

    Otherwise, I am very content being on H1.





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  • amitga
    02-15 02:39 PM
    The counter argument to this statement is that when I was hired I was told that it would take 2-3 years to get the Green Card and then you can live in this country. I made certain investments, commitments in this country based on this fact. Now either I stay here as slave or loose on all those things that I did thinking that I will stay in this country forever or for next 10-15 yrs. Some of the problems that tied me to this country are :
    1) Buying a house
    2) Child education : Child cannot go back to home country and countinue education due to language of instruction.
    3) Immovable Investments like 401K and not investing in my own country e.g. PF in India.
    4) Making life insurances. I am too old to take a new life insurance as the premium will be too high and I cannot afford to pay my current life insurance as US as it would be difficult to them with my earnings in the home country.

    And the list can go on and on. There are the things that habe tied me and I am no longer free to leave. If would have know earlier that the GC will take 10 years I would have not bought a house, left US before my kid started school, might have took a life insurance in home country etc. In fact same argument prevails that why were the dates made current last July. That send a wrong message and people made more investments.

    Your above statement is true, but it doesn't apply to EB situation. A slave is not allowed to leave, you are allowed to leave time, at your free will. Its just that you chose not to leave. The correct description of the situation is - you are imposing slavery upon yourself and asking for remedy from the government. Isn't that correct? Jazzy is simply saying that you can leave if you don't like it. So you are not a slave. Its that simple.



    Laws are pretty clear, its just that we are stuck in the process created by those laws and we want to call it "slavery".

    This debate will have a conclusive output if we think from our mind instead from our heart. No point in getting emotional about the situation, this debate needs pragmatic thinking and discussion about the possible lawsuit.

    Slavery is not a valid argument so no point in mentioning it. Also, whether of not we have a cause depends on the law and not on the logic or the emotional aspect of the debate.



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  • okuzmin
    09-30 04:36 AM
    In addition to the written above, you must stay in Canada for at least 2 years out of 5 in order to keep your PR status.

    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pub/imm-law.html , "Permanent residents" section





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  • jonty_11
    06-28 12:33 PM
    "expecting retrogresson ....in first wk of July... " ??
    I thought logiclife already clarified that can not and will not happen!!
    Thats why this thread is called " Rumour is that"





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  • pappu
    07-04 12:12 PM
    Thanks you everyone and taking a lead on this thread. we must try to get a lot of media coverage on this issue.





    ZeroComplexity
    12-13 07:01 PM
    One possible argument someone can make is , if there isn't a per country limit on H1Bs, why should there be one on GCs?


    We can have a lawsuit saying, cap both visa types or cap none.

    If ever this law suit come before a judge, we can potentially win by creating a list of all the lost oppurtunities, lost time and money etc, basically building a human story around the restriction.

    Other than that, I don't think per country qouta violates the constitution.

    Anyways, I am enjoying this thread, very logical arguments in each reply.





    senthil1
    06-12 06:57 PM
    Grassley bill will not close the door for immigrants but will decrease substanially from 200k(H1+L1) to 80k. But retrogession will go down and those 80k will have less problem in getting green card. You can chose whether to allow unlimited L1 and 125K h1b and 10 to 15 years waiting time or allow 30K L1 + 50K H1b and 3 to 5 years waiting time in green card. Which option will be better for you? If your skills are not good certainly you will not want any restrictions. If your skills are excellent you will survive whatever restrictions they put. They cannot reduce H1b below 65k as that is a part of WTO. So there is no one can block H1b program.

    Dilip,
    First, the rant on low wages does not hold water. The employer need to pay prevailing wage which is mandated in the LCA. If some employer does not pay that, employee can (and should) complain to DOL

    Second, you mentioned that you were employed for 2 days enabling you to file 485/EAD and thus you should not be termed out of status/illegal. If a company hired you for 2 days just to allow you to file 485 with no intent to have a job ready for you in future, the company and you commited immigration fraud --- a bigger problem. Also, you cannot invoke AC21 to switch employer before 180 days after you file 485. So, it still remains a mystery how you moved out just after filing 485.

    Your favor towards Grassleys bill shows you just want to close the door. Grassleys bill, if implemented will make it very difficult for even legit employers to get H1 employee. It is a kin to almost closing H1 program out of which you benefitted.

    Also, did you ever floated such ideas when you were on H1 ?